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Me(09:30:49): Good morning, Hillman
Me(09:30:49): Good morning, Hillman
Ron(09:31:17): Hillman is last name
Ron(09:31:22): Ron is first name
Ron(09:31:26): Your Amy?
Me(09:31:43): Sorry ! I am Andy
Me(09:32:22): Are you looking for Gypsum Drywall ?
Ron(09:33:03): Andy, you sent a Alibaba response?
Me(09:33:28): Yes, I send it
Ron(09:33:35): OK, I responded there
Me(09:33:42): ok ! Tks
Ron(09:33:46): you can find information that I need
Ron(09:34:03): already had asked for on the promotional ad, however
Me(09:35:05): If anything I can do for you, just tell me.
Ron(09:35:33): I asked the questions on the response to your Alibaba message
Ron(09:35:40): there are two questions
Me(09:36:20): Ok, I will check your message soon, and relpy for you
Ron(09:37:25): at your convenience
Me(09:56:33): Sorry, I have not got your Alibaba Message yet. Could you mind send it to our email : Me@Me.net ？
Ron(09:57:01): questions were:
Me(09:57:16): Pls
Ron(09:57:24): 1. Are you familiar with British standards for drywall panels and
Ron(09:58:18): 2. Have you shipped break bulk previously? This project is in the British Isles and simple container shipment can easily lose the project for Chinese mfg due to frt. cost on containers
Ron(09:58:25): another question is
Ron(09:58:42): 3. What is your maximum length capability?
Me(09:59:35): wait a moment.
Me(Request Read Receipt)(10:48:14): I have sent a email to you via ron@hotmail.com.
Pls check it at your convenience.
Ron(10:53:26): that message is very large and I have to download from another address. do not send large files to ron@hotmail.com because my main address is tied up then
Ron(10:53:48): if again send file, send to cius@126.com
Me(11:01:00): ok
Me(11:01:05): tks
Me(11:02:52): try again via cmius@126.com
Ron(11:03:11): no, I moved from one to the other
Ron(11:03:16): do not re-send
Me(11:04:07): Get it.
Ron(11:07:14): Your container loading is not acceptable because requires hand unload. Cannot accept
Ron(11:07:32): Your limited on lengths and this project may call for longer length than you can do
Ron(11:07:50): how long have you been there in that position and what is your title?
Me(11:08:42): I have been there for half a year in the International Trade depe
Ron(11:09:10): how long in that company?
Ron(11:09:16): and your title, please
Me(11:09:47): half a year, Manager assistant,
Ron(11:10:07): you have no idea of what "break bulk" is do you?
Me(11:10:57): Do you means you don't accept bulk shipment?
Ron(11:11:12): never said that
Ron(11:11:26): do you understand the term "break bulk" in shipping terms?
Me(11:11:45): Pls explain
Ron(11:12:05): this is shipment in the "hole" of the vessel and not in containers
Ron(11:12:24): container cost will be too expensive for this project. I estimate 150 containers
Ron(11:12:42): break bulk shipment will eliminate that serious issue
Me(11:14:52): Yes, 150 containers is a large amount and cost large frt cost. What your opinion about shiping to your destination ?
Ron(11:15:07): break bulk
Ron(11:15:12): better learn about it
Ron(11:15:25): as to your lengths, they may not be acceptable
Ron(11:15:55): I am not sure of the specs on this project, but I understand maybe longer lengths and not common widths
Me(11:15:57): I will talk about the break bulk with my boss. And how lengths you need ?
Ron(11:16:14): I doubt if your "boss" has any idea
Ron(11:16:31): I do not have specs on this project, as mentioned several times already
Ron(11:16:47): and your container loading as shown is totally unacceptable
Me(11:17:56): I see. We will find a way to solve the shipment problem and inform you later.
Ron(11:18:29): Andy, let me express some feelings to you
Me(11:18:38): Pls
Ron(11:19:03): I have been involved with international business since 1988 and I have dealt in China since 2001. I have lived in Qingdao since 2003.
Ron(11:19:16): I have been in business for many more years than your age
Me(11:19:28): yes
Ron(11:19:38): I am always embarrassed with what the Chinese offer as far as sales assistance
Ron(11:20:28): your personal qualifications are understood because you are employed by a Chinese firm and they have the habit of very poor product and international business training
Ron(11:20:55): your management and "boss" most likely has no concept of reality, but works based on historic and cultural natures
Ron(11:21:21): I will not waste time with companies that cannot show flexibility in policies and thinking
Ron(11:21:45): I will not waste time with companies that display a "careless" characteristic
Ron(11:21:56): We, as customers, have the right to pick and choose who we work with
Ron(11:22:11): Chinese companies historically provide the very worse of marketing efforts
Ron(11:22:23): your not much different in this regard
Ron(11:23:17): just wanted you to know that I am direct, I am knowledge and I know that I can pick who I will work with based on the qualifications I have for each company and each individual that I am forced to talk to
Ron(11:23:25): that is all
Me(11:29:30): A certain extent, I agree your comment about Chines product and Trade. But I also China has good products and good Trade.Maybe I am not be proficient in trade like you. Howeever, I love my company and our product because I think they very good.
Hope you find a good provide and cooperater. Tkanks
Ron(11:30:32): your comments are acceptable and the only thing that you can realistic say
Ron(11:31:06): But, China has much to learn about quality control and taking responsibility for production, positive negative
Ron(11:31:40): if, without QC, China will produce to standards to capture the highest profits
Me(11:33:20): Yes, I deeply agree on your above comment. China need to learn more from the International Market. And I think China will de better. And I will do better.
Ron(11:34:11): should, but money companies in China will fail due to both the currency devaluation and the elimination of the VAT
Ron(11:34:32): it is time for China to learn how to market and how to teach their employees
Ron(11:34:50): it is time to learn about "value added" for the customers real requirements
Ron(11:35:15): China just markets for "we have the best product, best service at the "cheapest" price"
Ron(11:35:29): should never use the word "cheapest" to western buyers
Ron(11:35:40): cheap to us means both price and quality
Me(11:37:41): Thanks for your enlighten.
Ron(11:37:54): only if one cares to address personally
Ron(11:38:00): otherwise it is wasted words
Ron(11:38:29): anyway, I will keep your information available and I need to wait for more information on this project
Ron(11:39:02): I am basically now searching for companies that I wish to work with on this project if it becomes realistic to ship from China
Ron(11:39:31): however, break bulk is often refused for gypsum because the board can become water damaged if not properly protected
Ron(11:40:08): so if relegated to shipping containers, I see this project going to European or N. American production due to shipping cost
Ron(11:40:49): I estimate over $550,000 ocean frt cost if shipped from China in containers-that will lose this project
Me(11:41:53): Thanks for that. I think you will find a new Chinese System on Product and Trade. I believe. Any way, if possible, hope you will visit our compay. And you will know how nice we are and
Ron(11:42:02): you have things to do, as well as I do as well. Thank you for your time and I hope that shedding a little western thinking on you did not create too much of a headache for you
Ron(11:42:22): where is your company located?
Me(11:42:46): NanChang of JiangXi,
Me(11:43:10): It is near the airport of NanChang
Ron(11:43:41): OK, I know the location
Me(11:43:58): Great
Ron(11:43:59): not easy to travel there without an order
Me(11:44:58): I see, If a chance, I'm welcome you to visit.
Ron(11:45:51): you ever been to Qingdao?
Me(11:46:38): no, I never but I dream to
Ron(11:47:12): well, as you can imagine, getting to Qingdao for yourself is just as easy as my going to Nanchang
Ron(11:47:32): have to have a real reason
Me(11:47:57): Hoho, right
Me(11:48:28): Hope you are happy in QingDao
Ron(11:49:11): like I said, been here for 4-1/2 years. Live and work in the same location and live/work immediately across the street from the ocean
Ron(11:49:42): Weather is much better here than most of China and air quality vastly superior than most of China
Ron(11:50:29): there is a good foreigner mixer of population and, as such, excellent medical and dental facilities to cater to foreigners
Ron(11:50:47): so no reason to complain
Me(11:51:39): I lived in SanYa City of HaiNan. I love SanYa so much. Maybe you also like it if you go to Sanya
Ron(11:52:05): heard about it-heard very nice
Me(11:52:06): Now I am in Nan Chang, Can not see the See again
Me(11:52:16): Sure,it is
Me(11:53:04): I live in SanYa for a whole year as a teacher volunteer
Ron(11:54:03): why leave?
Ron(11:54:07): work?
Ron(11:54:24): seems where you are now is not as pleasant
Me(11:55:19): No. It is time to home. I got one-year-volunteer.
Me(11:55:35): So I am back to NanChang
Ron(11:56:10): so your family is in NanChang and your born there?
Me(11:56:43): yes. I am a NanChang Man.
Ron(11:57:55): does Sanya have nice beaches-much sand?
Me(11:59:06): Yes. Certainly. Of Couse. I have some photoes abour SanYa
Ron(11:59:44): sometime I would like to see. We have discussed previously about going there during the winter months because it is too cold in Qingdao then
Ron(11:59:57): can you swim year round in the ocean?
Me(12:01:15): Sure, I can swim. I also like sea. Like the ocean blue
Ron(12:01:47): no, I am asking if the water temperature in Sanya in the winter months is OK for swimming
Me(12:02:11): A little cold
Ron(12:02:55): guess that is all relative-we are going to the beach this afternoon and I will swim, takes a few steps to get use to the water temperature
Me(12:02:56): September to November are the best to SanYa
Ron(12:03:21): OK noted, summer months a bit too warm?
Me(12:04:21): The general temperature in Sanya is 27 centigrade thermometer. Now the weather is very hot in Sanya
Ron(12:05:14): OK-thanks for the geography lesson-appreciated and hope we can find our way to Sanya in the near future-you have to go to lunch now, thanks for your time
Ron(12:05:16): bye
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